Documentary The following individuals were interviewed during the course of producing the Troubled Waters: The Illusion of Abundance educational documentary video. The interview links are to the transcripts of the full interviews. Please note that only excerpts from some of the following interviews were included in the final documentary. The full transcripts are provided for your review and research. The documentary team wishes to thank each individual for their participation in this educational documentary project. Interviewees are listed in alphabetical order. Colonel Ray Alexander,
District Engineer and Commander, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Wilmington
District, NC Ryan Boyles,
Associate State Climatologist, State Climate Office of North Carolina Dennis
Brobst, Director of Public Utilities for Moore County, NC Terry Brown,
Water Control Manager for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Wilmington
District, NC Eddie
Callahan, Mayor, Town of Vass, NC Ralph Clark,
City Manager, City of Kinston, NC Jean Crews-Klein,
VP of Business Development and Natural Resources, North Carolina Rural
Economic Development Center, Inc. (Rural Center) Governor
Mike Easley, North Carolina Bob Emory, Environmental
Manager, Weyerhaeuser’s Southern Timberland Operations, New Bern,
NC Courtney
Hackney, Professor, Biological Studies, University of North
Carolina at Wilmington Billy Ray Hall,
President, North Carolina Rural Economic Development Center, Inc. (Rural
Center), Raleigh, NC Les Hall, Executive
Vice President, McKim & Creed, Infrastructure and Environment Division
Manager, Cary, NC John Kime, Executive
Director, Piedmont Triad Regional Water Authority, Greensboro, NC Tom Leahy, P.E.,
Department of Utilities, City of Virginia Beach, VA Dr. David Moreau,
Professor, Environment Quality Assessment and Water Resources, UNC-Chapel
Hill, Chapel Hill, NC John N. Morris,
Director, Division of Water Resources, North Carolina Department of Environment
and Natural Resources, Raleigh, NC Robert W. Oreskovich,
Public Utilities Director, Dare County, NC Jennifer
Platt, Water Conservation Manager, Town of Cary, NC Sandra
Postel, Director, Global Water Policy Project Hal Sharpe,
President of the Roanoke River Basin Association and Editor of the Littleton
Observer, Littleton, NC Paul
Simon, Former Illinois State Senator, currently a Professor
and Director of the Public Policy Institute at Southern Illinois University
in Carbondale, IL Dr. Richard Spruill,
Associate Professor of Hydrology at East Carolina University, Greenville,
NC Boyd Strain,
Resident and Member of the Lake Gaston Association, Lake Gaston, NC |
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| Documentary Interviewees
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Colonel Ray Alexander |
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Colonel Ray Alexander Interview (Microsoft Word document) Colonel Ray Alexander, District Engineer and Commander, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Wilmington District, shares what the drought meant to the Corps and the steps they took to manage the five reservoirs and river basins within their region. He also discusses drought management; interbasin transfer, water tables/aquifers, water quality and dams – good or bad? Bio: Colonel Alexander took command of the Wilmington district in 2001 and immediately had to face a drought that was four years in the making. He is an integral part of the Drought Water Management Commission and a member of the Corps of Engineers’ Water Control Team, responsible for the management of the five reservoirs and river basins throughout the Wilmington region. |
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Dennis Brobst |
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Dennis Brobst Interview (Microsoft Word document) Dennis Brobst, Director of Public Utilities for Moore County, NC, dealt with a severe water shortage in the Town of Vass. Mr. Brobst feels that while Vass’ water shortage in 2002 was a small town’s view of the drought, the issues and solutions dealt with are a reflection of what the rest of the country needs to be aware of. He also addresses the issue of price structuring, interbasin transfer and integrated watershed management. Bio: Dennis
Brobst, has served as Director of the Moore County Public Utilities Dept.
since March 2000. Moore County Public Utilities has approximately 10,000
water and sewer customers, including the Town of Vass. In 1972, after
two years in the Army, one of which was Vietnam service with the 101st
Airborne Division, he began his career in water with the Maryland Environmental
Service, a statewide water and sewer agency. He later became the Capital
Projects Administrator, managing over $20 million in wastewater construction
projects. Just prior to coming to Moore County he served as the Utility
Director for Calvert County in Maryland for 15 years. |
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Ralph Clark City of Kinston |
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Ralph Clark Interview (Microsoft Word document) Ralph Clark, City Manager, City of Kinston, shares how at the end of the last decade, Kinston had too much water, but that during the drought of 2002, he was called on to work with 17 water systems in the area to help them through the dry period. Mr. Clark also talks about how, as a part of the Coastal Plains Communities, the City of Kinston is required to reduce their water use 25 percent every five years over the next sixteen years. In addition, he addresses aquifer drawdowns and depletion, public awareness, integrated watershed management and water pricing. Bio: Ralph Clark’s area of
expertise is local government and has served local communities for the
past 30 years, where he has dealt with many issues surrounding water including
brackish water, wells producing poor quality water, surface water shortages,
non-producing wells, and aquifer reductions. |
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Jean Crews-Klein |
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Jean Crews-Klein Interview (Microsoft Word document) Jean Crews-Klein, VP of Business Development and Natural Resources, North Carolina Rural Economic Development Center, Inc., explains the Central Coastal Plain Capacity Use Rule and the systems affected by it. She explains how the water problems evolved in the Central Coastal Plain and also discusses aquifer depletion, population growth, alternative water supplies, integrated watershed management, conservation and pricing (declining block rate). She speaks of Greenville’s aquifer recovery and recharge program, the first in the state, as well as the effects of saltwater intrusion. Bio: Jean Crews-Klein is currently
the Vice President of Business Development and Natural Resources at the
NC Rural Economic Development Center, Inc., where she has been for seven
years. Prior to this, she worked 20 years in local government. |
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Governor Michael F. Easley |
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Governor Michael F. Easley Interview (Microsoft Word document) Governor Mike Easley, North Carolina, assesses the effects the 2002 drought had on agriculture, industry and livestock. He also speaks about Federal crop relief and why he didn’t wait for the end of North Carolina’s growing season to ask for assistance. As well, he touches upon saltwater intrusion, integrated watershed management and who controls the water and water pricing. Bio: “In
these tight budget times, such unforeseen expenses can have a devastating
impact on the ability of a local government to provide needed services
to citizens,” said Easley. “I have pressured the federal government
for drought relief, and I will continue to do so. But North Carolina communities
cannot afford to wait any longer.” http://www.ncgov.com/asp/subpages/news_release_view.asp?nrid=398 |
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Dr. Courtney Hackney |
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Dr. Courtney Hackney Interview (Microsoft Word document) Courtney Hackney, Professor, Biological Studies, University of North Carolina at Wilmington, gives a global perspective on water scarcity. He speaks about Canada’s abundant water and Mexico’s lack of water, and how this affects the relationships between our country and theirs. He likens this water disparity to many of the states within the US, wherein some have plenty of water and others don’t have enough to go around. This not only effects industries, economic development and everyday lives, but during times of drought those in control have to determine who should get water and how much. Dr. Hackney also discusses saltwater intrusion in the Cape Fear River Basin, as a reflection of what is happening in many areas around the world. He defines different types of dams and their uses, water conservation and how it’s a long-term phenomenon. He adds how quickly landscapes respond to adequate or inadequate amounts of water. Bio: Well known for his innovative research connecting scientific concerns with the consequences of human interaction upon the environment, Dr. Hackney provides the program with solid scientific information easily understood by the average viewer about why and how people’s actions affect the environment. He is currently working with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers on a long-term study to evaluate potential water level increases and changes in salinity of tidal swamps and marshes in the Cape Fear Estuary, along with the two primary rivers flowing into the estuary. His focus is on the link between physical, chemical and biotic components of estuaries and how plants and animals relate, not only to each other, but also to their physical environment. In addition, he is studying human impact on the estuaries. |
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Billy Ray Hall |
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Billy Ray Hall Interview (Microsoft Word document) Billy Ray Hall, President, North Carolina Rural Economic Development Center, Inc. (Rural Center), defines rural North Carolina and the water issues that affect these areas, both in quantity and quality. He expresses the value that water has on everyday life. He believes that by bringing together local governments, engineers and environmental protection authority figures, as well as the people, a common understanding of how to deal with critical resources can take place. Cooperation with local governments and working together to solve each other’s water problems also seems to be an answer. Bio: Billy Ray Hall is president of the North Carolina Rural Economic Development Center, whose mission is to develop, promote, and implement sound economic strategies to improve the quality of life of rural North Carolinians. The center serves the state's 85 rural counties, with a special focus on individuals with low to moderate incomes and communities with limited resources.Created in 1987, the Rural Center operates a multi-faceted program that includes conducting research into rural issues; advocating for policy and program innovations; and building the productive capacity of rural leaders, entrepreneurs and community organizations. The center is a private, non-profit organization, funded by both public and private sources and led by a 50-member board of directors. |
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John Kime |
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John Kime Interview (Microsoft Word document) John Kime, Executive Director, Piedmont Triad Regional Water Authority, is very excited about the completion of the Randleman Dam Project. He talks about the project’s primary features, the resulting reservoir, the challenges, issues and impact to the area. He also speaks about the cost of the project and what affected the cost. Bio: John is a graduate of the University of North Carolina-Greensboro, where he received a Master’s in Business Administration. In addition, he attended the Institute of Government in Chapel Hill, Duke University and West Point. Before his involvement with the PTRWA, he was the Vice President of Pubic Affairs for the Greater Raleigh Chamber of Commerce. Prior to that, he served as the Town Manager of Liberty, NC. He is also supportive and active in community affairs; he is one of the founding donors of the Greensboro Children’s Museum. |
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Thomas M. Leahy,
P.E. |
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Thomas M. Leahy Interview (Microsoft Word document) Tom Leahy, P.E., Department of Utilities, City of Virginia Beach, VA, informs us about the Lake Gaston Project and its ramifications. Mr. Leahy explains why the City of Virginia Beach opted for interbasin transfer of water as opposed to desalination to meet their needs. He also speaks about efforts to quell the negative reactions both in North Carolina and the interests in Virginia that border Lake Gaston; 12 to14 lawsuits resulted, along with a host of regulatory proceedings. He goes on to give details on the relicensing process and how the adverse reactions to the pipeline changed the way the involved agencies approached it. Mr. Leahy adds an exploration into Virginia Beach’s future and how they will look east for any future water needs, which will require desalination facilities. Bio: Thomas Leahy and Virginia Beach's Public Utilities Department work to provide potable public water, including fire protection and public sanitary sewer service, to the citizens of Virginia Beach. Another part of his work is to oversee the design and construction of water and sanitary sewer systems. He plays a big part in the coordination, engineering and administration of the Lake Gaston Water Supply Project and the Norfolk Water Services. Another part of his responsibility is to operate and maintain the utility system to provide continuous water supply, wastewater collection and fire protection, and to ensure compliance with federal, state and local requirements. He also provides the necessary means to support and develop the City's water conservation programs. |
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John N. Morris |
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John N. Morris Interview (Microsoft Word document) John N. Morris, Director, Division of Water Resources, North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources, clarifies the responsibilities of his division and the laws that regulate water use in North Carolina. Additionally, Mr. Morris talks about the drought of 2002, it’s effect and ways to be more efficient in our water use. He offers information about collaborative efforts on solutions and the future. Bio: John
N. Morris is currently the Director of the Division of Water Resources,
North Carolina Department of Environment and Natural Resources, which is
responsible for water supply planning, water supply technical assistance
to local governments, river basin planning, special studies of regional
water supply and water management problems, and instream flow studies. http://www.enr.state.nc.us/ |
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Robert W. Oreskovich |
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Robert W. Oreskovich Interview (Microsoft Word document) Robert W. Oreskovich, Utilities Director, Dare County, NC, compares the state of freshwater supplies to demand in Dare County, as well as how the county is preparing for increased needs in the future. He describes the process of membrane technology being used in Dare County and why they are using “brackish” water, as opposed to seawater, which is being utilized in other areas around the globe. If you are concerned about the residual effects from discharging the wastewater from desalination into the ocean, Mr. Oreskovich will enlighten you with results of a study conducted to answer those concerns. Bio: Bob Oreskovich is the Utilities Director for the Dare County, North Carolina, Water Department. He is responsible for a staff of 61 employees working in two Ion Exchange water plants and four Reverse Osmosis plants on the Outer Banks of North Carolina.He is the past recipient of the American Desalting Association’s 1996 Robert O. Vernon Award as well as Presidential Awards in 1998 and 2000. He has also received the J.A. Younts Award in 1993 and the Dr. A. P. Black Award in Florida, both for dedication and service to the Public Water Supply industry. Mr. Oreskovich is the Immediate Past President of the American Membrane Technology Association, with 29 years of public water service experience in Pennsylvania, Florida and North Carolina. His past 19+ years of experience has been in desalination. |
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Jennifer Platt |
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Jennifer Platt Interview (Microsoft Word document) Jennifer Platt, Water Conservation Manager, Town of Cary, NC, gives details on the town’s need to purchase water from Raleigh and Durham on occasion. However, her main focus is on Cary’s aggressive water conservation program, which was developed by studying twenty years of water conservation measures conducted in the western part of the United States. Cary has designed their own comprehensive conservation program, in conjunction with education specialists who take it to the schools, as well as a Block Leader Program, where residents take conservation methods to the streets to inform their neighbors. Cary has committed to reducing their long-term use by 20 percent by the year 2015. Bio: Jennifer joined the Town of Cary in late 1996 and immediately began to develop a comprehensive water conservation and demand management program for the city. The program includes a mixture of educational, financial, and regulatory initiatives to encourage water conservation practices. In June 2001, Cary became the first city in North Carolina to pump highly treated wastewater through a separate pipeline system to some homes and businesses for irrigation and for commercial cooling and manufacturing processes. In April 2002, the Town of Cary adopted a year round ordinance to handle the Town’s peak demand periods by adopting an alternate day watering schedule. They also continue their “Beat the Peak” campaign that gives tips on how to reduce water usage for both industries and residents during peak demand hours. Jennifer is currently serving on the boards for Water Partners International and the Carolinas Irrigation Association. |
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| Sandra
Postel Global Water Policy Project |
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Sandra Postel Interview (Microsoft Word document) Sandra Postel, Director, Global Water Policy Project, is aleading authority and very passionate about the issue of water scarcity. She attributes the problem to increased population, uneven distribution and economic growth. She supports the drip irrigation process as a way to save water while being beneficial for crop production. While dams have been helpful in the past, she feels the forty-five thousand dams around the world have changed the hydrologic cycle enormously in a very short period of time. Ms. Postel states that coastal areas are seeing more water problems, including saltwater intrusion, mostly due to population growth. Over-pumping groundwater, recharging aquifers and water pricing are other topics she covers. She also touches on the issue of water rights, which vary from place to place, country to country and has led to wars in some areas. Bio: Currently
the director of Global Water Policy Project, Ms. Postel is an authority
and prolific writer on international water issues. She is the author of
Pillar of Sand: Can the Irrigation Miracle Last? and of Last
Oasis, which was the basis for a PBS documentary that aired in 1997.
Ms. Postel’s article “Troubled Waters,” was
selected for inclusion in the 2001 edition of Best American Science
and Nature Writing. Her latest book, Rivers for Life, is
coauthored with Brian Richter. |
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| Hal
Sharpe |
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Hal Sharpe Interview (Microsoft Word document) Hal Sharpe, President of the Roanoke River Basin Association and Editor of the Littleton Observer, recalls the issues and legal battle involved with the Lake Gaston pipeline. He’s concerned that other entities may look to Lake Gaston as a solution to their own water problems. Mr. Sharpe discusses the Doctrine of Riparian Rights and expresses concern about future water needs. He believes everyone should be conscious of the issues and solutions. Bio: Hal Sharpe, Editor/Publisher of the Littleton Observer, has over 15 years of newspaper management experience, specializing in communications and public policy issues. He is the President and public spokesperson for the Roanoke River Basin Association. Mr. Sharpe is a former legislative assistant and has long been a champion of environmental issues. |
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Paul Simon |
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Paul Simon Interview (Microsoft Word document) Paul Simon, Former Illinois State Senator, and Professor and Director of the Public Policy Institute at Southern Illinois University in Carbondale, IL, senses the relationship between Canada, Mexico and the US could become strained by water scarcity issues in the not too distant future. He mentions a report conducted by various government agencies that shows the world in a serious water shortage in fifteen years time. He reasons that an overall awareness of the situation, along with planning and collaboration between all nations, will be necessary to avert the type of conflicts over water that are currently taking place in the Middle East and other parts of the world over water. He looks to desalination and conservation as the main solutions. Bio: Mr.
Simon has been involved in politics since 1954 when he was elected to
the Illinois State Legislature. He is now retired from federal office
and is a professor at the Southern Illinois University. |
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Richard Spruill |
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Richard Spruill Interview (Microsoft Word document) Dr. Richard Spruill, Associate Professor of Hydrology at East Carolina University, clarifies the different types of aquifers and how they work. He gives an example of what happens when an aquifer’s water level declines and details saltwater intrusion in the area. He feels cities and municipalities should not rely on one source of water for their needs. He goes on to suggest the use of reclaimed water, conservation, as well as aquifer recharge and recovery as possible alternatives. He considers diversification and interconnections as the key to further solutions. Bio: Richard
has conducted and supervised hydrogeological research projects through
the university and the private sector for many years. The ultimate goal
of his research efforts is to develop management criteria for safe and
effective utilization of the aquifers in the face of an ever-increasing
demand for water resources. He is currently involved in research on aquifer
parameters and recharge areas of the Castle Hayne Aquifer System. In addition,
he is looking into the design/implementation/evaluation of high-capacity
well fields for municipal water supplies, and development of new strategies
for wellhead protection. As a public service, Richard also serves as a
consultant to the State of North Carolina, as well as the surrounding
community of Greenville. He has served as an editor for Ground Water,
a periodical published by the National Ground Water Association. He is
the co-author of Hydrogeology and Groundwater Management Activities
at the Lee Creek Mine at Texasgulf, Inc. and Groundwater Flow
Simulation for Management of a Regulated Aquifer System: A Case Study
in the North Carolina Coastal Plain. |
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| Boyd
Strain |
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Boyd Strain Interview (Microsoft Word document) Boyd Strain, Resident and Member of the Lake Gaston Association, is very concerned about interbasin transfers. He is of the opinion that using the water from one system to help another’s is the wrong approach. He believes that once the precedent is set, other areas will follow suit. He advises that all parties should be involved in the decision, including the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, in order to work together toward amicable solutions. Bio: Dr. Boyd Strain did his undergraduate work in Botany at the University of Wyoming; he later received his Ph.D. from the University of California, Los Angeles, and served on the Botany faculty. In addition, Dr. Strain was a founding member of the American Foundation for Biological Sciences. He eventually left the west coast and moved to North Carolina to become a professor of Botany at Duke University, where he was the director of the Duke Phytotron, a state-of-the art research facility for growing plants in specific environmental conditions. His research yielded 111 articles in scientific journals, and numerous book chapters. In addition to editing four books, he has served on editorial boards for some of his field's outstanding publications. He was elected Lake Gaston Association’s President of the Board in July, 1999 and served for two years. He also served as the Association’s Secretary. He continues his botanical work and research, aimed at resolving the hydrilla problems that plague Lake Gaston and other waterways. |
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| Additional Interviewees |
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| Ryan
Boyles |
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Ryan Boyles Interview (Microsoft Word document) Ryan Boyles, Associate State Climatologist, State Climate Office of North Carolina, evaluates the effects of drought and flooding on communities, the state and the nation. He compares the drought of 2002 with past droughts and talks about how future ones should be dealt with. Bio: Ryan Boyles, Associate State Climatologist for the State Climate Office of North Carolina (SCO), has a MS in Atmospheric Sciences from NC State University and works to improve the understanding of weather and climate impacts on North Carolina. The SCO is a Public Service Center for Climate-Environment Interactions in the UNC system. Housed at NC State University, the SCO serves as the statewide source for weather and climate information and expertise. |
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Terry Brown |
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Terry Brown Interview (Microsoft Word document) Terry Brown, Water Control Manager for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Wilmington District, shares what the drought meant to the Corps and the steps they took to manage the five reservoirs and river basins within their region. He also discusses drought management; interbasin transfer, water tables/aquifers, water quality and dams – good or bad? Bio: Terry
Brown is the Water Control Manager for the Wilmington District, US Army
Corps of Engineers. He has been with the Wilmington District for 24 years,
is a NC State graduate and has degrees in both Civil Engineering and Geology.
Mr. Brown oversees the hydrologic operation of the Philpott, John H. Kerr,
B. Everett Jordan, Falls and W. Kerr Scott Reservoir projects. |
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Eddie Callahan (photograph not available) Eddie Callahan Interview (Microsoft Word document) Eddie Callahan, Mayor, Town of Vass, NC, relates the events in the summer of 2002 leading up to the town having about two and a half hours of water left in their supply. He called upon the volunteer fire department to truck water in and asked the city's residents to do their best to conserve until the issue was resolved. |
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Bob Emory |
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Bob Emory Interview (Microsoft Word document) Bob Emory, Environmental Manager, Weyerhaeuser’s Southern Timberland Operations, sheds light on the role of a forest in the production high quality water, managed and unmanaged forests and the importance of trees in the water cycle. He also describes the effects of drought and saltwater intrusion on a forest. Bio: Mr. Emory shares Weyerhaeuser’s commitment to operating a profitable forestry corporation that recognizes the importance of preserving natural heritage lands. He is currently the House Speaker for the North Carolina Forestry Advisory Council. He is the recipient of the 2000 Environmental Merit Award, presented by the EPA for work done in forestry sustainability and management in North Carolina. Bob is responsible for the implementation of environmental management systems and how they interface with the environment by adhering to Weyerhaeuser’s commitment to the environment and a sustainable forest. Weyerhaeuser manages its private forestland in the United States with emphasis on:
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William L. (Les)
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William L. (Les) Hall, Jr. Interview (Microsoft Word document) Les Hall, Executive Vice President, McKim & Creed, Infrastructure and Environment Division Manager, presents a thorough, yet simple explanation of water reuse and how wastewater is treated. He also gives examples of reclaimed water usage and why it is not suited for human consumption. Bio: Mr.
Hall is Executive Vice President of McKim & Creed, serves on McKim
& Creed's Board of Directors, and oversees the firm's engineering,
marketing, and communications activities. He joined McKim & Creed
in 1984. |
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David H. Moreau |
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David H. Moreau Interview (Microsoft Word document) Dr. David Moreau, Professor, Environment Quality Assessment and Water Resources, UNC-Chapel Hill, describes water scarcity issues on a global level and how the changing climate is a concern in Water Management. He also looks at how many areas of the United States may be affected by these growing conditions; “every year you play a game against nature…nature’s dealing you a random quantity of water every year.” Dr. Moreau talks about the Lake Gaston Project as a classic case of a city, without a direct water supply, whose rapid growth results in an upstream/downstream controversy. Bio: Dr. Moreau
teaches Environmental Quality Assessment and Water Resources at the University
of North Carolina, Chapel Hill. He has research interests in the analysis,
planning, financing, and evaluation of water and related environmental
programs. His publications include work in systems analysis, planning
and management of urban water systems, management of water supplies during
droughts, and planning and evaluation of watershed management programs.
He has chaired the board of a local water and sewer authority, worked
for the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, chaired several state-level
environmental committees and commissions, and served on national advisory
committees. He is currently serving as Chairman of the North Carolina
Environmental Management Commission. Dr. Moreau has also served as Associate
Dean of the College of Arts and Sciences and Director of the Water Resources
Research Institute.
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